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				<title>Career without degree?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Hello,<br /> <br /> I am interested in utilizing a combination of work experience and skills to hopefully find an entry-level property or facilities management opportunity, and would be grateful for your feedback on whether my background is considered strong for the industry. I am still working towards my degree, but would prefer employment before that is complete.<br /> <br /> Here is my general background:<br /> <br /> - Residential broker associate.<br /> - Residential and commercial property inspector (up to 1,000,000 sq.ft)<br /> - Commercial HVAC service management with full P&L accountability.<br /> - Commercial HVAC preventative maintenance service contract sales to major corporations. <br /> <br /> As you can see I have a good real estate background, strong knowledge of building systems and components, contract negotiations, relationship building and retention skills with financial accountability. <br /> <br /> Once again, thank you in advance for your comments.<br /> <br /> <br /> Erol Kartal<br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 21 Apr 2010 23:36:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Career without degree?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I have a degree that is completely unrelated to the industry.  The value of a degree, especially a bachelor of arts, is that it is a guarantee that you have a wide array of experience.  A wide-array of experience is necessary to deal with all the various issues in the real estate industry.<br /> <br /> When hiring, I sometimes shy away from people with extensive experience in real estate and no other practical experience simply because they might not be able to adapt to how I do or my company does things.<br /> <br /> If you expand your resume to include much more than just your strength in real estate, you may have a better time placing yourself.  In the meantime, keep working on that degree!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 22 Apr 2010 19:45:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Career without degree?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Thank you, Chasten, for your response. I agree with you about the degree, but I fail to see how someone who has worked in several industries is bringing more to the table than someone with extensive, focused experience. I've been adapting to changes my whole career without leaving real estate/facilities.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 23 Apr 2010 16:57:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Career without degree?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I think it's a strong background for what you are trying to do; an entry or mid level position.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 30 Apr 2010 22:58:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Career without degree?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I think you should be successful in attaining an entry level position in the industry with your experience.  Your experience is a great start.  More experience will also equal more knowledge.  The fact that you are also pursuing your degree at the same time shows responsibility, drive and a clear goal of making this industry a career.  As long as you are willing to accept an entry level position, you should have not problem and I would assume advance fairly rapidly.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 2 May 2010 22:39:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Career without degree?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I think your experience is very valuable to the field of property management and I believe you should have no problem getting into the field at an entry level position.  What you don't say in your post is what you are studying in college.  What I see lacking in your list is accounting knowledge which is very important.  Your strength in the systems is good and you can be taught the accounting, certainly.  Keep working on increasing your skills and you will land somewhere.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 13 May 2010 12:19:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Career without degree?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I agree with those that do not put extensive weight on the degree. More than in most fields, hands on experience is of the utmost importance. A majority of the four-year degree programs focus on cutting edge technology. While this is important to be in tune with what is new, the majority of portfolios are comprised of older properties with antiquated systems. Unless you are working in A class property, I would say that hands on knowledge would be even more beneficial at the entry level. However, I would suggest looking into some of the specialized trainings and certification programs offered to firm up your marketability and continue to build on them for advancement opportunities. For example, if you wish to advance in property management and have limited finance exposure, getting a certificate in real estate finance would prove to a hiring manager that you understand how to build and maintain a budget, as well as, determine your NOI and cap rates. None of my classroom training prepared me for my first large property fire. Be flexible and be creative. If you aren’t learning in the classroom, network, join groups, utilize education resources, trade magazines and seminars. There is a great deal one can learn outside of  degree program. Good luck!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:24:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Career without degree?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ In my opinion, education has a couple definitions, book smart and everyday experience smart.  Having over 20 year’s hands on experience has given me the knowledge to be an effective, successful facilities manager.  That being said, I do agree that taking on going classes in this field is very beneficial to keep up with the changing world.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 29 Sep 2010 08:25:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Career without degree?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ And I think that speaks to the importance of certifications like the ARM and CPM.  Those programs augment the hands-on experience factor and you end up with in essence a "degree" in the field that can help you get past the negative perception some hiring managers have toward an applicant that doesn't possess formal college degree.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 30 Sep 2010 09:13:28]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Career without degree?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Yes, the prior person commenting, Lee, has it pegged.  It's not about the experience, it's about the willingness to learn and adapt; work hard and provide honest service to your employer.  IREM's variety of educational opportunities and benefits, from classroom to on-line to webinar allow you to expand your knowledge of property management, as well as obtain designations to augment your other life experience and hopefully help you obtain the appropriate position to your skills and that will suit your preferences.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 24 Oct 2010 19:30:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Career without degree?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ While I strongly agree that a professional career, within the same industry for multiple years should have significant value, the progressive nature of that career - as well as demonstrated proficiency will be the most significant factor.  I have worked in the industry for 24 years, starting as a part-time leasing consultant and ending as the Director of Operations for the Army on Oahu (8088 units and 2 billion in construction).  While I don't possess a 4 year degree, I have multiple industry certifications...but more importantly, made a significant impact (along with my peers) in each of my positions.  I would recommend that you hi-lite all of your contributions and industry knowledge to divert from a formal degree program.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 1 Nov 2010 03:58:37]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Career without degree?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Yes, I agree that for good and long term futre prospective a degree is must and it is a path to making a bridge from your thought of dream and dream come true in the professional life.<br /> <br /> But,I strongly favor towards the experience that change the whole world. With degree we can show that we are educated and having adicate, well dressed and but without experience its no result oriented in the prictal life.<br /> <br /> Further, after graducaiton from any stream if we c't give a chance to the candidate how is get experince and we alll know that his experience is our testing and TESTING NEVER ENDS.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 25 Nov 2010 00:12:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
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