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06/17/2009 10:30:54
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Subject: Suspected drug dealing tenant
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Bryan Nesteriak
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I have a tenant who is suspected to be dealing drugs at one of our units. From the testimony of the other tenants, I am almost certain he is dealing. Since I can't evict based on heresay, how have others dealt with this problem? FYI, the local police don't seem to have much motivation to try and stop this man as they say there are "bigger fish to fry."
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07/26/2009 07:48:04
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Subject: Re:Suspected drug dealing tenant
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Deborah Ho-Beckstrom
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Have you considered utilizing a security guard? Often times just teh mere presence of others watching will make the dealers nervous and want to leave the property.
Deb
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09/09/2009 20:41:09
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Subject: Re:Suspected drug dealing tenant
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Jesse Holland
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Sometimes a quite conversation helps. i.e. Tell the tenant who is dealing - LIsten i heard through the grape vine that the cops are getting ready to raid the place. I don't know if you are doing something, and quite frankly i don't care but if you are and you stick around bad things are going to happen.
It usally works pretty good.
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09/18/2009 15:31:41
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Subject: Re:Suspected drug dealing tenant
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Kevin Grail
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The advice from Jesse was very good, but there are other things you can try as well.
First, it is surprising how many dealers don't pay their rent on time. You'd think with the extra cash that wouldn't be a problem, but it frequently is. When they are late, file your 3-day notice and when it expires send them immediately to eviction.
Second, get neighbors or staff to sign statements telling how they are disturbing others. Dealers almost always have noise complaints. You can evict them for disturbances.
Another: when doing preventive maintenance or pest control, or any other properly noticed inspection, check for drug items that have been left in plain view. If you see these, remain in the unit and call 911. That eviction should be simple. Drug people often leave some of their stuff out in the open.
Another: ask them politely to leave. Tell them you have had reports that they are involved in drug related activity and before an eviction is needed it would be better for all concerned it they would just sign an "Agreement to Vacate" and then leave as specified. This way they can avoid an eviction court record and associated costs.
Another item would be to install additional exterior lighting in the area of this unit making it more uncomfortable for them to do business.
Another ideas would be to recheck their criminal background (depending on the type of release they signed) to see if anything new has come in that would allow an eviction.
See if they lied about anything on their application, which, depending on your application form, may allow you to evict them.
I hope one of these ideas may help.
Yours,
Kevin Grail, CPM
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01/02/2010 17:44:09
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Subject: Re:Suspected drug dealing tenant
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Sean Plotkin
Joined: 10/29/2008 01:10:31
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It's not too simple. I received notification from the district attorney's office a few years back that one of my tenants had been dealing and that it was my job to evict them or face the city taking the property away. You need to be careful on both sides of the coin. If someone gets hurt from the dealings going on there could be extra potential liability. Consult with an attorney or better yet the D.A. of your city.
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02/12/2010 21:57:52
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Subject: Re:Suspected drug dealing tenant
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Todd Hiwatashi
Joined: 10/14/2009 19:03:22
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Local police is suppose to "Protect and Serve". It's best to keep in touch with local authorities so they'll realize it is a big concern. Here are a few steps that may help:
Do not confront a suspected drug dealer or user. People under the influence of a narcotic can suffer from hallucination, paranoia, and other adverse reactions from drug uses.
If confronted by a drug dealer or user, contact 911 immediately.
If you suspect someone is dealing drugs in your neighborhood you should contact your local Narcotics division and ask to file a complaint.
Information needed to help investigators with your complaint include:
Location: Exact address (if possible) or description of location.
Suspects: Names - full names, any personal information will help.
Description: Height, weight , hair color, eye color, complexion, type of clothing usually worn, ethnic background.
Vehicles: License plate numbers (Hawaii, California, etc.) of any vehicles used by the suspects, description of the vehicles (color, 2 or 4 doors, etc.).
Drugs: Type of drug that you believe is being sold or used.
Activity: What type of activity is happening to make you believe that possible drug dealing is occurring.
Vehicles coming and going at all hours
Loud parties all the time
People coming and going frequently
Date & Time: Note the time that the illegal activity is occurring. (Try to be accurate. Example: During the morning hours between 9 p.m. to 4 a.m. This help the investigator.)
Contact number: Complaints can be made anonymously, but a name and contact number can help the investigator greatly. All information should be kept confidential.
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06/24/2010 00:05:46
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Subject: Re:Suspected drug dealing tenant
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Carol Howell
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Most often when someone is breaking the law they are also breaking at least one of your property rules. Watch closely and see which rules he's breaking and give him a 3 day to cure or quit. He obviously feels comfortable dealing from his apartment so make him feel uncomfortable. Consistantly watching him and his guests will make him and his customers increasingly uneasy. I know it's been a long while since you posted your question so I am sure you have already solved the issue.
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06/24/2010 00:06:36
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Subject: Re:Suspected drug dealing tenant
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Carol Howell
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Most often when someone is breaking the law they are also breaking at least one of your property rules. Watch closely and see which rules he's breaking and give him a 3 day to cure or quit. He obviously feels comfortable dealing from his apartment so make him feel uncomfortable. Consistantly watching him and his guests will make him and his customers increasingly uneasy. I know it's been a long while since you posted your question so I am sure you have already solved the issue.
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09/07/2010 02:30:47
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Subject: Suspected drug dealing tenant
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Karl Fabian
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]I have a tenant who is suspected to be dealing drugs at one of our units. From the testimony of the other tenants, I am almost certain he is dealing. Since I can't evict based on heresay, how have others dealt with this problem? FYI, the local police don't seem to have much motivation to try and stop this man as they say there are "bigger fish to fry." [/quote wrote:
How did things turn out for you? Please share the results with us when you get the chance O.K.
Be Well
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12/22/2010 13:38:02
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Subject: Suspected drug dealing tenant
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Brian Kays
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How close to his Lease End Date is he? If his lease is about to end a "Non-Renewal" is one of the easiest steps to force someone to move out that you are having trouble with. The best thing is that you can write "Lease was non-renewed by Management" on any future rental verifications that come in so you can warn other properties without breaking any laws.
I would like to know how this turns out.
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12/27/2010 09:59:06
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Subject: Re:Suspected drug dealing tenant
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Jason Hagenow
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This can be a difficult situation to deal with, and you will need the support of the local authorities and the neighboring residents.
I often find that you will be able to find some other lease violation which will allow you to evict them.
If not I like the idea of simply approaching the resident and calling him/her out on it. Sometimes just letting them know that you are aware of what they are doing and that you will be building an eviction case against them and working with the police will get them to either stop or leave your property without going through the court process.
I also like to use security companies in this instance (as long as they are good and actually do what you ask) and simply have them posted in that particular area for the duration of their shift(s).
I have also taken it upon myself to sit in the hallway of a suspected dealer and to simply take on the security duties myself. I ask strange visitors to the property specific questions about who they are on the property to see, or what address they are going to. If they cannot provide me with answers I instruct them to leave the property as they are tresspassing and if they refuse to leave I call the police and have them ticketed/arrested.
I also found that asking visitors that cannot respond correctly to these questions to see their ID's and/or taking pictures of them or their vehicles is also a very good deterrent.
Of course you have to know your limitations and you cannot approach people in a confrontational manner. You approach peole with respect and they will generally respect you as well.
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01/05/2011 21:37:38
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Subject: Re:Suspected drug dealing tenant
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Brian Kays
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Jason,
How did this end up?
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01/18/2011 13:04:22
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Subject: Re:Suspected drug dealing tenant
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J. Benjamin McGrew
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Video surveillance-or at least "dummy" video cameras might work---there may be some public posting/signage and/or notifications required in some municipalites -but I have seen it cut down on "traffic"---I also serve as a Superior Court Receiver on "crack-house" properties and use surveillance. I have found all the equipment I need at www.x10.com - the Sacramento Police Dept referred me to X10--they even have no-wire battery units that broadcast over the Web with a password...
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01/19/2011 08:36:16
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Subject: Re:Suspected drug dealing tenant
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Lee Whitman
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Be cautious on the use of dummy cameras; we have been advised that there have been some unfavorable lawsuits against bldg owners that used such devices and a crime was committed within "view" of these inactive devices. The basis of the suits was that the camera provided a false or misleading sense of security to the victim. Might want to discuss this carefully with your legal advisor before heading down that path.
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06/18/2011 14:22:39
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Subject: Re:Suspected drug dealing tenant
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Randy Lawrence
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The filter checks work well you can use less expensive filters for that perticular unit so you enter more frequently.
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